thinkoutsidethebox | Question meme!!

Tiger's first impressions on Aather?

CONFUSION, OVERALL. He's overall fairly comfortable with the "hello you are here to be a knight and help people and save the world" part! He can even swallow the part where he's lost his memories and needs to get them back, and at a stretch the part where he needs to play in games to save the world. The part where people apparently die fairly regularly is less comfortable. He doesn't know how to reconcile that with the fact that he should be saving people! And in general doesn't really know what saving he should be doing.

But he's going to try his best anyway. :B

Any app plans?

I have an app in queue. We'll see if the momentum holds for the next few months. :x

What are Erika's thoughts on Jasper and being the new guys?

Erika loves it! It means she gets a lot of attention. And being the first one on her team also suited her a lot, because she really dislikes feeling inferior to anyone else, and if she came in to an established team that would be a lot more likely to happen. As it is she's one memory ahead of all of her teammates, which is pretty excellent. :'D

As for Jasper themselves, Erika does not think of them super strongly as a team because she's not really interested in teamwork, but as a group of people she has to work around they could be a lot worse! None of them seem particularly inclined to get in her way, anyway, which is fine for her standard.

Spitfire's impressions of the new teams?

Hm... I think he summed it up best in Mally's game, which I'm too lazy to go look up the exact thing right now. Basically, Heliodor is bright and cheerful and easy to get along with except for Effie, and Jasper is young but intelligent and cunning.

Has Erika developed opinions about the other teams yet?

Yes! Well, kind of. She came up with descriptions for all but two or three of the teams in Maleficent's game, I think, which I am also too lazy to go find. Coral is cheerful but delusional, Citrine is contradictory, Heliodor bites off more than they can chew, etc. Most interesting to me is that she thinks everyone she's met on Ruby so far is kind of pathetic and easily intimidated. :'D

But that was under instruction, and overall I don't think she wants to group people like that. The way that teams seem to have common personality traits is interesting and helpful as a shortcut to how they might act, but overall she wants to get to know people individually.

How is Spitfire doing with Iolite atm?

impressions on cuuuub

Erika thinks Cub is ridiculous, idiotic and delusional. She doesn't have all of the context to want to be able to tear him down and tell him he's a figment of people's imagination, but she has an instinctive sense that stuffed animals shouldn't be alive. And his arguments that he could scare away scary things were just stupid. She's not interested in humoring him and doesn't know why anyone does. :'D

...Reverse!

Cub is kind of intimidated by Erika! FOR ALL HE THINKS EVERYONE IS GOOD DEEP DOWN that doesn't necessarily make everyone nice. He's somewhat uneasy because their conversation sort of progressed until Cub had to adjust his reasoning to something more ... reasonable (as reasonable as that conversation could get) and that combined with getting verbally coerced out of his maji optimism 1000% makes him a little more uncomfy.

He hasn't lost hope though!! In his intro Itempas tried to deny his existence and he's continuously been grumpy/:E at Cub, but now they can have basic conversations and clearly Itempas is Troubled. So, Cub is kind of thinking Erika might be something like that! She may be Very Determined about her realism but clearly she is just a troubled person who doesn't mean to be so mean '^' So he'll probably try to see if they can get to that same basic conversation level (which doesn't even concern whether he can exist or not to have that conversation!!) with Erika as he does with Itempas.

Favorite things about your characterssss

Gosh that's hard because I like a lot of things. '-'

I love that Raven is a really complicated character! Particularly that his "evil" persona is actually the honorable knight, and at the end of canon he settles on his really sketchy spy persona as the better choice. And I enjoy that when playing him the answer to "is this comment too ridiculous" is almost always "no."

I love Erika's ridiculous self-confidence in her intelligence and her brutal realism!! And how dramatic she is, and how self-aware she is about the fact that's she's terrible. "I'm an intellectual rapist" "The villain should wear this kind of face at the end, right?"

I love Kotetsu's earnestness and the fact that he's really pretty perceptive about dealing with people's issues. And yet the way that he's still really performative about it, and still obviously tries to look cool and has a repertoire of inspiring speeches. And that he's actually really balanced and self-aware, and even if he's kind of dumb or makes dubious choices sometimes it's in a really... realistic way. Also he's really attractive??

Same question!!

first impressionssss for Erika!

Kit didn't make a super strong impression actually! He was skeptical enough of her in their first conversation that she didn't like him much, but then he was competent enough in the game that she didn't actively find him annoying. He was worth using to test out her ideas on! She was unimpressed that he told her to stop being scary at Tavros but again he didn't push it so she doesn't feel the need to retaliate for it.

Reverse?

Kit is both a little intrigued and a tiny bit suspicious of Erika, but neutral on her overall. Her intellect also left a pretty good impression on him during the game, but their first conversation plus the way she cornered Tavros with fear kind of made him :|; He doesn't think she's a bad person, but he definitely picks up on a few harsher things about her. He wouldn't mind poking at her more despite this though, since while her harshness makes him :T it hasn't really bothered him a lot just yeeeet.

Do you have any thoughts on how Erika is going to react when she remembers Beatrice?

Not really! It depends pretty highly on how she remembers her, and on what happens between Erika and Beatrice between now and then, since it may be a while. Erika does not... actually have very many memories of Beatrice. She might remember talking about Beatrice's myth and saying that there's no way she actually exists! Or she might remember super-moe chick-Beato. Or... actually I think those are pretty much the only options since her duel with Beatrice is locked. Obviously those will inspire pretty... different reactions.

Kit's thoughts on his team at the moment?

Edited 2012-05-18 05:00 (UTC)

Kit's thoughts on Coral have gone through a looot of evolution since he arrived, but he has settled comfortably on being extremely fond and protective of them. He's very much aware that Coral is a team of cheerful fakers who all have pretty deep issues they don't like to talk about, and he's also aware that it's a team made up of softer people who are generally very close to each other. Despite this, he thinks they're all very strong and determined individuals, and he loves them all dearly and would do a lot to ensure their safety. He wants to do right by them, although sometimes he gets frustrated because he feels like he fails them frequently, but they inspire him to KEEP TRYING and KEEP GOING and allow him to give the KEEP YOUR HEAD HIGH speeches a lot, too. Coral is his niche of people, and even if he gets exasperated with them, he wouldn't have it any other way.

Does Erika have any firm opinions on the Personae?

One of Erika's secrets in Mother's game was that she wants to show up the personae and make them regret that they brought her here. :'D But in general she doesn't actually dislike them! They are in charge and she will play their game until she knows the rules and how to take advantage of them.

She hates Mother though because she lost her game for STUPID REASONS!! All of her secrets she was supposed to find out were boring and way too similar!! And her judgment criteria were wrong!! It's bad game design, that's the only reason why she lost!!!

If Kit was not on Coral what team do you think he would be interesting on?

Sapphire comes to mind first because Sapphire is actually a team that aligns with his canon moral thinking/life strategy more than Coral does, so I think he would've fit very well there. Though then again, him being on Sapphire also could've meant he would've developed into completely canon Kaito muuuch too quickly for my tastes, so it would have depended. Turquoise is another one that comes to mind because of their GIVE NO FUCKS attitude, which would've resonated with him well and could have produced some interesting life philosophies for him.

Reverse for Erika and Raven, I like this question!

Wwwwell Raven was here when Aather started, so in that sense he would have worked on almost any team! And had he been on other teams we would probably have developed very differently. I talked some about a couple other possibilities over here!

For Erika I really think being the first person on Jasper was the best possible option by far. '-' Other than that I think the top of my list was Amethyst! Where she would have been somewhat more insecure as the newcomer, but at least people there appreciate the value of intellect, and to some degree craziness although I think she exceeds even the Amethyst standard. It would have been a lot of drama though and I doubt she would have really clicked as a teammate.

Castmates (or just... other characters) you want in Aather and what teams they'd be on!

ALL OF THE CASTMATES. '^' Aoko (Kaito's canon love interest) and Akako (his witch stalker) are both already in the queue, so I'm super excited for when they get placed! Aoko would do super well on Sapphire I think because they're an independent, strong-willed team (plus they're blue, and her name means "blue child"). I sort of want to see Akako on Jasper because she's a witch and Erika is on Jasper (it would be hilarious to me), but I also think her personality lends her to Jasper pretty well (she's kind of creepy, manipulative type with some hidden softness). Akako would also do well on Ruby because of her hard exterior, soft interior... and Aoko would also fit on Heliodor because she has a tendency to yell at things when she's mad :'D

I WOULD LOVE A CONAN (Kit's detective rival), who I would place on Amethyst because Amethyst is a team that values intellect. Hakuba (another detective rival for Kaito) I see on Emerald because he has a lot of snark, though he's less introverted than most of the team is (which might not be a bad balance). Heiji (Conan's best friend, another detective) is kind of hard for me to place... but he's hot-headed and loyal so maaaaybe Citrine? Tiger's Eye might not be a bad fit either since he's good with swords. And Kazuha (Heiji's love interest) would go on Kunzite because she's hella protective (and super dangerous since she knows aikido). I could also see Turquoise for her because of the DUMB TEENAGER thing Turq has going on, but she'd also probably get exasperated with them quickly.

I SUPER LOVE SORTING QUESTIONS, so sort some of Erika's castmates onto teams!

'-' Erika on Beato...

ERIKA IS REALLY INTENSELY CURIOUS ABOUT BEATO AT THIS POINT. Which as you know is... not really a thing you want Erika to be about you. But Beatrice keeps acting in ways that are weird and unpredictable to her, and saying things to her like she's judging her, and none of it has been really terrible for Erika but she doesn't... understand it. Obviously.

But she's basically the only person in Aather who has offered Erika a direct challenge! And as much as Erika likes just crushing people's dreams and being the best smartest person ever it is actually not particularly satisfying when it is no challenge. So while I still wouldn't say she... likes Beatrice exactly, I think Beatrice is the only one she's engaging with more or less as a person rather than as something to use or work around. :|a WHICH MAKES SOME AMOUNT OF SENSE I GUESS?

Reverse...

Beatrice obviously has a more informed opinion on Erika, and that opinion is basically DIE IN A FIRE :))))) so. Well. I THINK Beato has like 3 memories of Erika now and 2 of them were as chick!Beato so her opinion there was more... "You must be a worthy and formidable opponent and o-oh, oh no, that wasn't very nice, oh dear :((" For the most part though those thoughts have been translated into the simmering hatred/resentment that a Beatrice with more memories has, but there is still SOME of the respect afforded to an equal and opponent. :|a Not that that... excludes... killing mercilessly. Idk if this was revealed anywhere but one of Beato's secrets for the Mother game was definitely how she hates not being able to kill people without social repercussions, specifically thinking about Erika... so... she is happy that she ended up shanking Erika now anyway, let me tell you

BUT IN GENERAL when it comes down to it Beato sees Erika as someone she has to defeat at all costs, and even when she's trying to keep her cards hidden, it's hard to repress that. She will be trying very hard not to drag either Peridot or Jasper into it, but Erika herself is an eyesore :E

What memory/memories are you most excited for at this exact point in Erika's development !!

ALL OF THEM!!!

...No really. :|b I am really excited for her getting the memory of declaring the detective's authority! I am very excited for her to get any metaworld memory really because that will shift her perspective a lot and it's weird to play her without it. I am excited for any "haha Beatrice doesn't exist" memories for obvious reasons! And pretty much any of her less immediately exciting trivial memories will still be fun for the "oh what happened in your memory" conversations with teammates. Because yes.

How do you think it will go when Battler shows up?

Something I have noticed while playing her especially is that Beatrice is a coper! She copes, sometimes to the exclusion of addressing the problem. She complains about trivial things, but if you hit her with something serious, she'll suck it up. Battler sort of... overloads her capacity for that a little... but for the most part that's how it goes. Not to mention that in Aather, there are a number of factors that mean she will do everything in her power NOT to have a breakdown. In fact here is a short list.

1. In Aather to a certain degree she... "can't" have a TOTAL breakdown. By that I mean that her heartgame eliminated most of her hardcore suicidal tendencies... or when I say "eliminated" I actually mean they were redirected and/or covered up, and they're something she will be striving not to fall victim to. She also had an episode early-ish on where she took a memory (from EP5, when she was living dead) and emotionally flatlined, and Lelouch chewed her out for it and made it very clear that She Should Not Be Suicidal. Which sort of leads intoooo

2. She feels a very strong sense of obligation towards Peridot, and if all other things fell apart in her life, she would continue to cope for Peridot's sake. Peridot also has a strong tendency towards breakdowns in general, so she feels very deeply that she must be the rock for them, and stay strong and supportive even as everyone else can't deal. She can be a little flighty so that she can emotionally detoxify through solitude (well really it's that I can't be around for everything OOC, and that seems like a justifiable IC excuse) and she will be a little sulky around them sometimes but OTHER THAN THAT she feels like she needs to be on her A-game when interacting with Peridot in 99% of situations. USHIROMIYA BATTLER MAY BE HERE but she has to lean on the concept of Peridot to support her! She has to be there for them!! (This is also... why she stopped being motivated to take memories for a stretch there.)

3. She CANNOT WILL NOT SHOULD NOT!! in her opinion, let any of her castmates find out too much just because she had a very unsubtle reaction. Sakutarou doesn't need to be burdened with anything uncomfortable or too complicated, Erika doesn't need any ammo, Battler does NOT!!!!!1 need to be spoiled for any answers that he should be finding on his own. :E She believes in dropping hints, but she has to feel perfectly in control of the situation to avoid feeling vulnerable.

...THIS WAS ALL A VERY LONG PREAMBLE to the fact that--for these reasons she will externally cope fffairly well long-term... BUT it will still visibly affect her. She will try to make sure Battler is the real one at first, and then she'll probably have an emotional moment, and how long that lasts really depends on how Battler acts and how much her CR presses it. She will break down crying at some point but whether it is crying ON someone or just crying alone in the sunflowers... also depends :') THE PROBLEM WITH BATTLER as opposed to Erika is that unlike Erika, there are a few people in Aather who know who Battler is and even what he looks like, or just that someone like him exists, like Raven :B (I GUESS IN THAT SENSE IT WAS ON THE BILLBOARD FOR EVERYONE TO SEE...) So she probably will get confronted about it instead of her getting to choose who she tells about it, like with Erika :( SPOILERS IF YOU CONFRONT HER ABOUT IT SHE'LL CRY AND NOT TELL YOU VERY MUCH, STRAIGHT UP. She will struggle very hard to cope but it will be hard if people are probing her with hard-hitting questions :'DD ("HARD" BEING "WHO IS THAT GUY" no well I mean... basically that.)

What impression does Erika have of Battler from her memories so far? And how will that affect her reaction when Battler shows up/when Beato inevitably reacts to Battler showing up.

Haha well, at the moment Erika only really has two memories regarding Battler, her starting intellectual rapist one where they're activating the epitaph device and an EP6 memory where the family is talking about him being one of the murder victims. '-' AND NO METAWORLD MEMORIES AT ALL. OBVIOUSLY by the time Battler gets here she will probably... realize he's not actually dead, or at least that being dead on the game board doesn't actually matter, but at the moment as far as she can tell he's just a bit player who dies on the first twilight and is dead. l-lol.

So I don't really know how she'll react. If Battler showed up RIGHT NOW before she remembered anything else or anything about Beatrice she'd probably assume Beatrice was crazy from her lost love or something, who even knows.

Tell me things about Beatrice's feelings in those last couple threads with Raven.

Beatrice obviously projects herself a lot onto conversations about IDENTITY... She did start clamming up after a bit because it's like '-' would I really be here if I knew the answers to these questions '-' why don't you figure it out and tell me what's up, you look like you have a headstart. But she did honestly want to help so she tried her best to pretend like she knows what IDENTITY SUCCESS feels like. She is always kind of up and down with that but at least she has... experience thinking about it. In her heart of hearts, she can't honestly see why Raven would need to worry about it so much, since she can't believe he's a truly horrible person in any incarnation. But that's just baseless dere, and dismissive of a problem that she agrees is very serious, so she wouldn't bring it up :'D

idk what other thread you mean other than the Mother game one. There she did feel bad about Raven feeling bad, but in a less personal way because well she doesn't care about Yuri or anything /SHRUG! But in a way she sympathized because she doesn't know how to un-care about people herself, so she's like 8( SORRY THAT THAT GUY IS A TOTAL DICK NOW, YOU WILL PROBABLY... KEEP CARING ABOUT HIM FOREVER.......... But she's actually fairly confident in where she stands with Raven enough that she won't get insecure over worrying over Yuri or anything. (SHE WAVERED WITH MISATO, BUT THAT'S. DIFFERENT!!)

In general Raven always surprises her with how much he thinks about her and genuinely likes her and values her advice etc. etc. u////u though that's a bit of a superficial reaction.

Did talking to Beatrice actually help Raven sort himself out in any way... identity-wise!

A LITTLE BIT!! It definitely helped a little bit in that she seemed to at least understand what his problems were, which is a big step considering that he doesn't think he really understands what his problems are. He does tend to get "it's fine, you can do whatever you want" from people a lot, which isn't... really satisfying to him because he's like "but it's not fine and I have no idea how to even start figuring out what I want to do??" And then he kind of feels like more of a failure for not knowing how to just... be whatever person he is, which clearly other people seem to think should be simple. But he also doesn't really know how to describe what his issues are, especially because the more he remembers the more he's increasingly reluctant to just lay everything out. So the fact that Beatrice was like "Oh, I see. You need to make a choice and you have these options." and he was like "...Yes that is what I thought too..." was really reassuring! '-' In that at least he's not just manufacturing an incomprehensible issue.

He's still... not really satisfied with the decision he remembers making exactly (to embrace being Raven), but that decision is also not strictly relevant since who Raven is is not strictly relevant to Aather! But the main effect that talking to Beatrice had is that he is more comfortable with embracing facades in general. During his time in Aather he has definitely constructed a certain sense of who he should/needs to be, which has never been very connected in his head to who he thinks he actually is! Though he's always wanted to try to actually be it, he definitely feels like he's just faking it all the time. The main result of talking to Beatrice is that he feels like possibly that it can be okay that it's not who he actually is, that "just keep acting like it" is a valid choice. So for instance like I said to Mitchell below, he is now slightly more comfortable being Tiger's Eye's leader, even though he still doesn't think that's who he "really" is.

In addition to that, just being with Beatrice reminds him that he has made some decisions about what he wants that are definitely actually about him. Beatrice being the main one of those! And he's still happy with that. So maybe he's actually doing better about that than he is in his memories. :B

He still doesn't really... know where he's going with any of that. But yes he's slightly more comfortable in general and definitely with Beatrice in specific than he was before.

DID ANY OF THAT EVEN MAKE ANY SENSE.

Talk more about Beatrice and Peridot!

It made sense to me!! BELATED RESPONSE

WELLLllll. I can't even tell if "Peridot" is meant to refer to the individual members on her team right now, or Peridot-the-concept, because those are vvvery different things. She actually thinks of Peridot conceptually as a nurturing place, where WE'LL ALL BE ACCEPTED, NO MATTER WHO ELSE OR WHAT ELSE HURTS US! Sort of the translation of the Golden Land in canon, ofc. That's why she kind of flips her shit a little every time Peridot has infighting or estrangement issues, or when there's the question of whether or not someone "belongs" there. Peridot is Peridot is Peridot and that's the bottom line and if you violate that it's opening up the path to a slippery slope of hurt and distancing the team from each other (obviously this is just her opinion/fear). Part of that, honestly, is that she like--"well if THEY might not be Peridot then I'm put under suspicion" since she doesn't really believe she deserves nice things. AS SOON AS SOMEONE IS EXCLUDED FROM PERIDOT, that place is no longer guaranteed for her, and she would not be able to function without that concept to fall back on.

As for the individual members... most of the old guard of Peridot is gone and most of the members now are fluffier and more dependent, so she doesn't see them so much as equals as her children, EVEN IF SOME OF THEM GET HUFFY/DEPRESSED AT THAT. Lelouch is her co-parent and the co-leader of the team, Cassie is her younger sister on sort of a midway step in the hierarchy, and Ventus/Fay/Emilatosk/Rose are all her BELOVED CHILDREN! Though of those, she has a special attachment to Ratatosk just because he has a blunt and brutal approach that she can deal with and which allows her to feel more comfortable opening up herself, which she will not do with ANY OTHER OF THE KIDS. So maybe he's slightly more on the level of Cassie :|a

How conceptually does Raven see the teams, including Tiger's Eye? Are his beliefs on who goes where closer to "it's destiny" or "it's completely arbitrary" :|a I GUESS YOU COULD ANSWER THIS FOR YOUR OTHER CHARACTERS TOO NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT!

Raven's beliefs are significantly closer to "it's completely arbitrary." :|b Not quite completely, but... In the most general sense Raven thinks of the teams as like his guilds in canon - pseudo-anarchic groups of people who work together and support each other but don't have real laws except what they make and agree on. But the major difference is that guilds are 100% voluntary. You join whatever guild you want and agree to its laws or you're kicked out. So he has a pretty strong awareness that in Aather they are all just stuck with people against their will and there's no real... getting out of that if you don't like it. IT IS CONVENIENT THAT MOST OF THE TIME IT SEEMS TO WORK OUT OKAY, BUT STILL.

Raven loves his team and thinks they are great and he would have been lost without them, but he doesn't... really think that's essential, or that teammates are naturally more important than anything else, or that they should necessarily be striving to be super close and important to each other! Which does tend to make him insecure about his necessity to the team at times, although his sense of his role there is obviously shifting a lot lately. As far as his Tiger's Eye leadering goes he's much more focused on making them functional and able to work together and live together happily rather than being the best loving team or even necessarily agreeing on things. Though again that's partially a guild thing, since even guilds who have chosen to work together kind of fight over stuff all the time and need constant mediation because that's how guilds work.

This outlook has definitely caused him some strife with teammates in the past though! Particularly Mitchell. So in the interests of diplomacy he hasn't actually said anything like "you know we were all just assigned here, it wasn't our choice" in front of his team in quite a while. :'D

Erika was told in her intro that the teams tend to have common characteristics among their members! And believes that tends to be more or less the case from observation, although she would probably say something more like that the teams have complementary personalities. Jasper works well enough for her, anyway, even if she wouldn't really say they're like her because she's a narcissist. If she has to be on a team, which apparently she does because that's how it works, they could be significantly more annoying. But she's pretty sure that it's a matter of someone organizing it deliberately for functional teams rather than "destiny" because w/e destiny.

...Kotetsu is really new and a knight and hasn't really thought about it at all! Well, he's managed like "I want to save people and I am a knight; knights are supposed to save people so that's good." He's cool.

Things you want to do with Beatrice. :3

HMMM. The thing that comes to mind first actually is that I want to do more with Shannon and Kanon, so that's not really doing anything with "Beatrice" per se >D But I feel like I'm severely downplaying the presence they should have. Even if it's Beatrice around most of the time. People have started to get the impression she turns to them when she's in a bad place which is sometimes true but definitely not the full picture of it.

OTHER THAN THAT with all the Peridrama I would like her to become closer to her teammates... :|a I think that my inactivity has made it so she's distanced from her team. Possibly I should look for a consistent venue to play out taking her memories/person she feels comfortable taking them with, which may just as likely NOT be within her team. I WANT TO PLAY WITH PEOPLE LIKE NAOTO MORE TOO, she totally wants to keep tabs on that situation (and I just like playing with her). When Battler gets in I want her to be a huge stalker all over his team. Other than that I just like threading with people and seeing what happens really...

Oh the fight with Erika does make me think that I DO want her to utterly lose her shit over something sometime, and have to be reined in, but that might have to wait until Battler is in too :'D Or possibly being mafia for Peridot?? IDK but she's at a stage in her development where she is ready to flip out on people at the slightest justification. I feel bad OOC because I am self-conscious about dragging people in to bail me out of affairs, but I would like to do it at least once or twice.

List (at least) one thing you want to do with each of your characters!!

Raven would always help Beatrice take her memories :|b

I have a lot of things I want to do!

For Ravennnn I am obviously really enjoying responsible team stuff with him right now! I also really want to try to thread him with knights more because really he... knows very few of them and it's only contributing to his thing where he simultaneously resents them and puts them up on a pedestal. :/a MOST AT THE TOP OF MY WISH LIST THOUGH is vague, but I would really like Raven to have to deal with something bad that is actually centered around him and not just related to his own insecurities. Getting hurt, being the target of something, making a genuinely bad decision and pissing people off and having to deal with it, something like that! The problems with that are a) Raven actually needs a fairly substantial amount of pressure before something like that would happen, b) he tends to downplay things a lot and act like everything is fine, c) I get self-conscious about grabbing the center of attention especially considering that b generally means it's harder for people to pay attention to Raven's problems than other stuff that's going on unless it's super dramatic. BUT I WANT THINGS TO HAPPEN TO HIM!! (...The last time I felt like this I got a bone ripped out of his arm.)

Erikaaaaa I want to do horrible things! I want to play her in a trauma game. :3 I want her to generally make enemies of some people! Though she's making some progress on that. I want her to come into conflict with her team at some point because I am excited to see how that goes. I want someone to call her on being a terrible person and to have her justify herself (or... not justify herself, as the case may be.) I am basically excited for all the things with her though.

KOTETSU I want to do all the knight things with! I want to play with all the teams! I want to do a quest post where he gives out pre-packaged food like frozen pizza and meat sticks and stuff because that is what he eats. I have a list of more mundane stuff but that is mostly "thread with people again/thread with people I haven't yet"... Oh, eventually I would like to subpatron him. :3 idk to who yet, but threading with personae is definitely on the list.

OH ALSO Raven still has their Firebird vacation token for... at some point. THOUGHTS ON THAT? I admit my main thought is "...sob 24 hours out of time, whenever we decide to do this we will have to work out what happens or... thread really quickly before we can do anything else..."

Haha yeah that feeling with Raven is kind of what I was getting at with Beato too... sob, sometime!!

UHHHHHHH YES, VACATION... Beatrice would certainly like a vacation sometime and would accept if he asked, but :'Da I admit my first instinct is like "WELL I'LL BE ON HIATUS IN JUNE SOMETIME WE COULD JUST THREAD IT THEN" but not only does that not help you but it defeats the purpose of it being out of time...

We could always... START it preemptively and then work in details as they come up in Aather canon :'Da and then decide where it goes... but. um. That involves handwavy gymnastics in the other direction. IDK WHAT DO YOU THINK.

That sounds like a good plan actually :|a Raven is definitely both reaching his limit at being responsible and feeling more comfortable with her, so he would ask her if she wanted to go at pretty much any point! There is still some potential for timeline disaster but I think pretty much any way we do it would have potential for timeline disaster. And it seems somewhat more minimal that way. LET'S DO THAT. Handwavy gymnastics are great, it will be fun. At least we will be able to take our time a bit.

Tell me some memories/skills that will still have a big effect on Beatrice when she gets them back.

When/where do you want to start that then... :|a I'm still kind of sickish tonight but.

SKILLS getting her ~magical body~ back will relieve stress for her but she already acts like she has it anyway so there won't be much of a difference practically. The big thing will be getting back offensive magic, which is most of the skills she has left so 8'D She can like... use a gun, but she doesn't HAVE a gun, etc., and it's all very inconvenient and she can't wait until she can set people on fire with her mind!!!! By the time she gets up to mythical class magic there's a considerable probability that someday, she will use it and then immediately pass the fuck out due to powercap. A+

As for memories: THE ACTUAL PONY PROMISE and waiting for 6 years, which is split into 3 chapters/memories I think and she hasn't gotten... any of them yet. She knows something like this went on but she actually doesn't remember any of the details. She will cry.

Also the end of EP4 is also split up into 2 or 3 memories she hasn't gotten yet and it's kinda like SIG NEG SIG NEG SIG NEG so that will be fun. Like above, she remembers losing her will to live by EP5 but she doesn't remember why precisely 8'D She will probably bypass crying and just emotionally shut down a little.

...mmmmmmost of the other big stuff is still locked, or it was on her registry and then I decided to keep it off for now, since I'd like to hold off on like the end of EP6/the end of EP5 for that matter/LEARNING HER ENTIRE BACKSTORY FROM KINZO AND THE OLD SERVANTS OKOK/the entirety of EP8 which is not even on her registry... Really I need to severely rework her registry so that I can start opening up more stuff like that, I've just been supremely lazy about... all of these memory things that are the point of a memory game, oops

WHAT ARE SOME INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT TIGER&BUNNY THAT WOULD MAKE ME WANT TO WATCH IT since in my sickishness I am getting around to watching stuff :|a

I poked Seth so we have a thing!

IT. IT IS REALLY GOOD? I don't really know how to say things about Tiger & Bunny in ways that don't sound dumb though. It's corporate-sponsored superheroes and it's obviously really aware of a lot of tropes. But not... in an obnoxious way? Like it's both a lot less cynical and a lot less fanservicey than I was expecting going in. And I really love the characters a lot! They are super real and believable and I love them. ;; Even if they are all kind of dumb because really, you don't make being a superhero your career choice unless you are kind of dumb.

BUT LIKE. I love Kotetsu a lot obviously! Barnaby is also. . . amazing... he's a really terrible failure at being a functional human being for the first half, he just flips his hair at people prettily because he's the super popular new hero. And is kind of a jerk because he doesn't need friends he only needs VENGEANCE!! HIS PARENTS ARE DEAD!! And I also really love Karina/Blue Rose, despite her super fanservice superhero outfit, because she's obvious a real person who is really dedicated and kind of a failure at feelings. SHE'S REALLY CUTE. Really all of the heroes are great and I would watch them hanging out in the hero gym in their sweatpants forever because it would be adorable.

And in the end the show is all about friendship and teamwork and optimism!! And it's just... very pretty and very well done in general.

...I think part of the reason that having both Erika and Kotetsu as new characters at once is working is that I like T&B/Kotetsu for completely different reasons than I like Umineko/Erika. :'D

OH RIGHT I FORGOT A QUESTION uh. Tell me a canon I should get into.

Edited 2012-05-23 05:42 (UTC)

HELLO TEAMMATE...

Hello '-'

Erika thinks Mitsuki is obnoxiously nice and cheerful. But he seems willing enough to listen to what she says, so if he wants to learn to cook and stuff and support the team in the mundane ways she doesn't want to deal with that's fine with her.

Reverse!

Mitsuki is ssssslightly intimidated by Erika. SLIGHTLY! She was the first one here, she SEEMS to know everything about this place, and she's a little bossy and uppity. Mitsuki is dere for ALL OF HIS TEAMMATES; he wants Erika to realize that Jasper is ~full of friends~ and that she needs to tone it down a notch and relax and have fun. 'v'

Mitsuki will so do all of the housework btw. :')a

Does Erika have any plans in Aather yet?

Nothing concrete! Mostly she is focused on games and people. When she gets to know people better and makes more enemies she may have more solid plans. :'D So right now her goals are just "win everything" and "get to know everyone so she can crush their hopes and dreams later if necessary"

Tell me things about Mitsuki in canon!

MAYBE I CAN CATCH UP TO RAVEN NOW

How are we doing?

I'M STILL AHEAD!!

We are doing... pretty good! Obviously Raven is still pretty Unimpressed with Mitchell. But by the end of their argument Raven was pretty convinced that was just the same as it has always been, and largely he blames himself for not being able to handle things better because he was darknessed himself. So he is not really still mad at him! He just knows there is this thing about Mitchell he doesn't like and they will have to work around. He doesn't really feel the need to Fix it as long as they're functional, which they seem to be.

Of course recently he is dealing with Tiger's Eye leaderfeelings which is it's own whole other thing. Having's Mitchell's support is a mixed blessing since he doesn't really know how much he trusts Mitchell's judgment on this sort of thing. |D BUT he's obviously... dealing with it okay so far so we'll see how that goes.

Reverse!

YES BUT HOW LONG CAN YOU STAY AHEAD WITH TWO NEW CHARACTERS

Mitchell was pretty unsettled by his arguments with Raven until Jaina told him that Raven's issues were more about Raven than about Mitchell, so he feels a bit better now. And he also feels better since he was eventually able to get out of Raven that the problem was more about Mitchell's attitude than Raven's actual perceptions of Mitchell's ability to not be awful. He doesn't really see it as anything that needs resolving, more something that King should just get over. The Maleficent game also brought King's issues even more to his attention, but he has a feeling that poking at them directly won't end well (not like it ended well even during the game itself) so idk, he still wants to help with them somehow though. He might just make an effort to poke at related things to try and get King to realise he's better than that.

Like I've mentioned ever since Dusk left he's seen King and himself as the natural successors to being Leader Of Tiger's Eye, but since his arguments with Sieh and Naoto he shifted a bit to thinking of King as leader and himself as like... vice-leader. Team Uncle? Anyway he was REALLY glad that King was there to intervene with Ferris and Naoto because he didn't trust himself to be able to do it (although more because he couldn't think clearly than because he actually would have attacked either of them) and it was the last straw in really cementing that King should definitely be leader rather than him. He's glad that Raven seems to be actually realising that he's fallen into it too! He would actually be teasing Raven about it more but he remembers what it's like to accidentally find yourself in a position of authority that you never wanted and aren't certain you can fulfil, so he has too much sympathy to do that and would rather just sincerely support him at least until he's a bit more steady about it.

Tell me more about Raven's leaderfeelings :3

A WHILE IF I'M RUNNING TEAM MEETING POSTS APPARENTLY

Leaderfeelingssss okay. Like I have mentioned, Raven has experience with leadership, but does not want to be leader nor does he think of himself as a good one! He has been in positions of authority but not ever really of his own will.

The start of leaderfeelings was the memory he got back recently where a retired knight was like "Schwann had a really human personality. He was a way better leader in terms of personal magnetism than Alexei." Which. Even in the memory he is like "ha ha... ha..." because... Schwann was basically a completely invented persona with made-up credentials! And in the end Raven doesn't think of Schwann as someone he wants to be. He talked to Ferris about it and was like "it's cool, I convinced him he had the wrong guy."

But... on some level, he kind of has to wonder what the real distinction is between "is actually a born leader with lots of personal magnetism" and "can act enough like a born leader with lots of personal magnetism that a very senior knight who's known him for years thinks that's who he is." Especially because Raven has no idea who he "actually" is. And because he was just talking to Beatrice about that, he is now kind of like... well maybe that's okay? So how that carries over is something like... if Ferris and Mitchell tell him he's being the leader and should be the leader, he still doesn't really believe them or feel like he is, but if they believe it enough that it accomplishes what needs to be done, that's fine? He can be that for them.

Because in the end it's just about what Tiger's Eye needs. A lot of the time Tiger's Eye does not need a leader! But obviously sometimes they do, and Raven will do his best to act like one if he can help to pull them together.

The memory he just got back will also solidify things along these lines because it is basically the same sort of thing - the guilds are in disarray, so he's providing direction because it's something that needs to be done. It will also make him slightly more comfortable because it is about guild leadership, which is all negotiation and trying to come to agreements with people when there's no real authority structure, rather than knight leadership, which is obviously more rigid as well as being associated with Schwann (and thus person-he-is-not) pretty heavily in his head.

Mitchell's thoughts on Tiger's Eye in general at the moment!

IT'S COMPLICATED. He's not freaking out over the team not being cohesive but he's sort of... uneasy? Things don't feel as comfortingly stable as they used to. It's sort of like the team before was more stable than he was and could keep him stable, and now the team is still full of people who care about each other and work together and stuff, but it feels more like he has to be one of the stable ones and help the newer teammates, rather than relying on his team to help him instead. But luckily for him he has Jaina to lean on now and a lot of the weight of his memories telling him to lean on his girlfriend for all support ever, so it's not as bad for him as it could be.

But having his teammates rely on him more isn't necessarily a bad thing either even if it's less... comfortable, than being the one to rely on his teammates, and he feels like he has been doing pretty well at being there for Sieh and Naoto in particular. Even though they've had arguments, they've been productive arguments in that he feels like he understands both of them a lot better than he did before, and the issues they were having have actually been resolved rather than just being there in the background. He feels like he's up to the challenge of helping them out and he can do it and it's a good chance to prove himself, so he's pretty optimistic in general. It's just a bit more stressful than it was.

He's also slightly uneasy about the morality of the team changing. He clung VERY STRONGLY onto Dusk and Valiant's self sacrificial values after he got over the initial blow up and he's still clinging pretty strongly to that, with a large helping of "I've hurt enough people in my life so I need to make up for that now with protecting them". But he hasn't needed to think about this too much because the main person in issue is Sieh, and even though Sieh doesn't care about offteam people and would shank offteam people to save himself and the team, there are very, very good and compelling reasons to protect Sieh and not let him get hurt. He's got very good reasons to not want to be hurt and Mitchell wouldn't even begin to want to argue with those. Kitsunebi's a bit different but he hasn't really spoken to him at length about it so it hasn't been a major issue yet.

Reverse!

Some similar feelings! Which of course ties into the leadery stuff. Raven was very used to counting on Tiger's Eye to be moral and stable and therefore keeping him that way. But obviously he hasn't felt that way about Mitchell for a while. He's always trusted Ferris but now she's down a bit, he trusts Naoto but definitely feel like she needs him more than he needs her, especially at this point, and he trusts Josh but is not close enough to him to really lean on him emotionally. And obviously Sieh and Kitsunebi he feels more of a need to protect than anything else. '-' Even if he doesn't know a lot of what's up with Sieh, actually. So of course he's counting on Beatrice a lot when it comes to his own issues.

But he still feels like the team is functional and that everyone on it can work together! That was a lot of his frustration with the whole situation really. They are different people with different outlooks but he's pretty sure they can all still manage to be a team. Raven has obviously never had as strong a Team sense than Mitchell - to him they are really just a group of people who work together, even if they work together well and are pretty close. And he thinks they can still be that, they just might need some nudging.

What does Mitchell think of the new teams?

HI . . . .

HI.

Like I said in your post and in your plurk the other day, Erika thinks Jay is cute and fun to play with! Erika is immensely self-centered, but also really demonstrative, and she needs people to watch and appreciate her and to play off of. So he gets points for appreciating her, and he's also smart enough to banter with her a bit, but apparently not smart enough to pick up when she's being kind of malicious or uncaring, which is a lot of fun for her. '-' The way he seems to think he's on a level with her is very cute to her, because of course in her mind he's very much not and she could humiliate him at any turn if she wanted to. BUT she has no desire to at the moment because she's very positive on him!

I said she doesn't really feel affection, but that's not strictly accurate; she can, but she's decided she's a person who gets her sole pleasure out of being smarter than other people and humiliating them! And doesn't remember much other than that. And she does get pleasure out of that, so it's not inaccurate, and she basically has no desire to be a person who honestly cares about people.

So yes. This is going to go well.

REVERSE WITH MORE WORDS.

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