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Furudo Erika ([personal profile] thinkoutsidethebox) wrote2012-05-17 08:21 pm
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Question meme!!

Raven ([personal profile] telltaleheart): 16,439 comments (92.92%), played since 2011-01-29 (475 days at 35 comments/day)
Furudo Erika ([personal profile] thinkoutsidethebox): 1,075 comments (6.08%), played since 2012-04-27 (21 days at 51 comments/day)
Kaburagi Kotetsu ([personal profile] heroinhisowntime): 178 comments (1.01%), played since 2012-05-15 (3 days at 59 comments/day)

Total comment count: 17,692 since 2011-01-29 (475 days at 37 comments/day)

...Somehow I don't think this comment rate is maintainable. Regardless, it is clearly time for a question meme! For King/Raven, Furudo Erika, and Lion/Kaburagi Kotetsu aka Wild Tiger.
deadlyfurniture: sarcastic (As she stared in my eyes)

[personal profile] deadlyfurniture 2012-05-18 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
MAYBE I CAN CATCH UP TO RAVEN NOW

How are we doing?
telltaleheart: (time to go to war)

[personal profile] telltaleheart 2012-05-18 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
I'M STILL AHEAD!!

We are doing... pretty good! Obviously Raven is still pretty Unimpressed with Mitchell. But by the end of their argument Raven was pretty convinced that was just the same as it has always been, and largely he blames himself for not being able to handle things better because he was darknessed himself. So he is not really still mad at him! He just knows there is this thing about Mitchell he doesn't like and they will have to work around. He doesn't really feel the need to Fix it as long as they're functional, which they seem to be.

Of course recently he is dealing with Tiger's Eye leaderfeelings which is it's own whole other thing. Having's Mitchell's support is a mixed blessing since he doesn't really know how much he trusts Mitchell's judgment on this sort of thing. |D BUT he's obviously... dealing with it okay so far so we'll see how that goes.

Reverse!
deadlyfurniture: happy (right off the house)

[personal profile] deadlyfurniture 2012-05-18 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
YES BUT HOW LONG CAN YOU STAY AHEAD WITH TWO NEW CHARACTERS

Mitchell was pretty unsettled by his arguments with Raven until Jaina told him that Raven's issues were more about Raven than about Mitchell, so he feels a bit better now. And he also feels better since he was eventually able to get out of Raven that the problem was more about Mitchell's attitude than Raven's actual perceptions of Mitchell's ability to not be awful. He doesn't really see it as anything that needs resolving, more something that King should just get over. The Maleficent game also brought King's issues even more to his attention, but he has a feeling that poking at them directly won't end well (not like it ended well even during the game itself) so idk, he still wants to help with them somehow though. He might just make an effort to poke at related things to try and get King to realise he's better than that.

Like I've mentioned ever since Dusk left he's seen King and himself as the natural successors to being Leader Of Tiger's Eye, but since his arguments with Sieh and Naoto he shifted a bit to thinking of King as leader and himself as like... vice-leader. Team Uncle? Anyway he was REALLY glad that King was there to intervene with Ferris and Naoto because he didn't trust himself to be able to do it (although more because he couldn't think clearly than because he actually would have attacked either of them) and it was the last straw in really cementing that King should definitely be leader rather than him. He's glad that Raven seems to be actually realising that he's fallen into it too! He would actually be teasing Raven about it more but he remembers what it's like to accidentally find yourself in a position of authority that you never wanted and aren't certain you can fulfil, so he has too much sympathy to do that and would rather just sincerely support him at least until he's a bit more steady about it.

Tell me more about Raven's leaderfeelings :3
telltaleheart: (on view)

[personal profile] telltaleheart 2012-05-18 07:54 am (UTC)(link)
A WHILE IF I'M RUNNING TEAM MEETING POSTS APPARENTLY

Leaderfeelingssss okay. Like I have mentioned, Raven has experience with leadership, but does not want to be leader nor does he think of himself as a good one! He has been in positions of authority but not ever really of his own will.

The start of leaderfeelings was the memory he got back recently where a retired knight was like "Schwann had a really human personality. He was a way better leader in terms of personal magnetism than Alexei." Which. Even in the memory he is like "ha ha... ha..." because... Schwann was basically a completely invented persona with made-up credentials! And in the end Raven doesn't think of Schwann as someone he wants to be. He talked to Ferris about it and was like "it's cool, I convinced him he had the wrong guy."

But... on some level, he kind of has to wonder what the real distinction is between "is actually a born leader with lots of personal magnetism" and "can act enough like a born leader with lots of personal magnetism that a very senior knight who's known him for years thinks that's who he is." Especially because Raven has no idea who he "actually" is. And because he was just talking to Beatrice about that, he is now kind of like... well maybe that's okay? So how that carries over is something like... if Ferris and Mitchell tell him he's being the leader and should be the leader, he still doesn't really believe them or feel like he is, but if they believe it enough that it accomplishes what needs to be done, that's fine? He can be that for them.

Because in the end it's just about what Tiger's Eye needs. A lot of the time Tiger's Eye does not need a leader! But obviously sometimes they do, and Raven will do his best to act like one if he can help to pull them together.

The memory he just got back will also solidify things along these lines because it is basically the same sort of thing - the guilds are in disarray, so he's providing direction because it's something that needs to be done. It will also make him slightly more comfortable because it is about guild leadership, which is all negotiation and trying to come to agreements with people when there's no real authority structure, rather than knight leadership, which is obviously more rigid as well as being associated with Schwann (and thus person-he-is-not) pretty heavily in his head.

Mitchell's thoughts on Tiger's Eye in general at the moment!
deadlyfurniture: questioning, drinking (for thirty years)

[personal profile] deadlyfurniture 2012-05-18 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
IT'S COMPLICATED. He's not freaking out over the team not being cohesive but he's sort of... uneasy? Things don't feel as comfortingly stable as they used to. It's sort of like the team before was more stable than he was and could keep him stable, and now the team is still full of people who care about each other and work together and stuff, but it feels more like he has to be one of the stable ones and help the newer teammates, rather than relying on his team to help him instead. But luckily for him he has Jaina to lean on now and a lot of the weight of his memories telling him to lean on his girlfriend for all support ever, so it's not as bad for him as it could be.

But having his teammates rely on him more isn't necessarily a bad thing either even if it's less... comfortable, than being the one to rely on his teammates, and he feels like he has been doing pretty well at being there for Sieh and Naoto in particular. Even though they've had arguments, they've been productive arguments in that he feels like he understands both of them a lot better than he did before, and the issues they were having have actually been resolved rather than just being there in the background. He feels like he's up to the challenge of helping them out and he can do it and it's a good chance to prove himself, so he's pretty optimistic in general. It's just a bit more stressful than it was.

He's also slightly uneasy about the morality of the team changing. He clung VERY STRONGLY onto Dusk and Valiant's self sacrificial values after he got over the initial blow up and he's still clinging pretty strongly to that, with a large helping of "I've hurt enough people in my life so I need to make up for that now with protecting them". But he hasn't needed to think about this too much because the main person in issue is Sieh, and even though Sieh doesn't care about offteam people and would shank offteam people to save himself and the team, there are very, very good and compelling reasons to protect Sieh and not let him get hurt. He's got very good reasons to not want to be hurt and Mitchell wouldn't even begin to want to argue with those. Kitsunebi's a bit different but he hasn't really spoken to him at length about it so it hasn't been a major issue yet.

Reverse!
telltaleheart: (maybe I should wear these more often)

[personal profile] telltaleheart 2012-05-19 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
Some similar feelings! Which of course ties into the leadery stuff. Raven was very used to counting on Tiger's Eye to be moral and stable and therefore keeping him that way. But obviously he hasn't felt that way about Mitchell for a while. He's always trusted Ferris but now she's down a bit, he trusts Naoto but definitely feel like she needs him more than he needs her, especially at this point, and he trusts Josh but is not close enough to him to really lean on him emotionally. And obviously Sieh and Kitsunebi he feels more of a need to protect than anything else. '-' Even if he doesn't know a lot of what's up with Sieh, actually. So of course he's counting on Beatrice a lot when it comes to his own issues.

But he still feels like the team is functional and that everyone on it can work together! That was a lot of his frustration with the whole situation really. They are different people with different outlooks but he's pretty sure they can all still manage to be a team. Raven has obviously never had as strong a Team sense than Mitchell - to him they are really just a group of people who work together, even if they work together well and are pretty close. And he thinks they can still be that, they just might need some nudging.

What does Mitchell think of the new teams?