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...Somehow I don't think this comment rate is maintainable. Regardless, it is clearly time for a question meme! For King/Raven, Furudo Erika, and Lion/Kaburagi Kotetsu aka Wild Tiger.
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...Somehow I don't think this comment rate is maintainable. Regardless, it is clearly time for a question meme! For King/Raven, Furudo Erika, and Lion/Kaburagi Kotetsu aka Wild Tiger.
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1. In Aather to a certain degree she... "can't" have a TOTAL breakdown. By that I mean that her heartgame eliminated most of her hardcore suicidal tendencies... or when I say "eliminated" I actually mean they were redirected and/or covered up, and they're something she will be striving not to fall victim to. She also had an episode early-ish on where she took a memory (from EP5, when she was living dead) and emotionally flatlined, and Lelouch chewed her out for it and made it very clear that She Should Not Be Suicidal. Which sort of leads intoooo
2. She feels a very strong sense of obligation towards Peridot, and if all other things fell apart in her life, she would continue to cope for Peridot's sake. Peridot also has a strong tendency towards breakdowns in general, so she feels very deeply that she must be the rock for them, and stay strong and supportive even as everyone else can't deal. She can be a little flighty so that she can emotionally detoxify through solitude (well really it's that I can't be around for everything OOC, and that seems like a justifiable IC excuse) and she will be a little sulky around them sometimes but OTHER THAN THAT she feels like she needs to be on her A-game when interacting with Peridot in 99% of situations. USHIROMIYA BATTLER MAY BE HERE but she has to lean on the concept of Peridot to support her! She has to be there for them!! (This is also... why she stopped being motivated to take memories for a stretch there.)
3. She CANNOT WILL NOT SHOULD NOT!! in her opinion, let any of her castmates find out too much just because she had a very unsubtle reaction. Sakutarou doesn't need to be burdened with anything uncomfortable or too complicated, Erika doesn't need any ammo, Battler does NOT!!!!!1 need to be spoiled for any answers that he should be finding on his own. :E She believes in dropping hints, but she has to feel perfectly in control of the situation to avoid feeling vulnerable.
...THIS WAS ALL A VERY LONG PREAMBLE to the fact that--for these reasons she will externally cope fffairly well long-term... BUT it will still visibly affect her. She will try to make sure Battler is the real one at first, and then she'll probably have an emotional moment, and how long that lasts really depends on how Battler acts and how much her CR presses it. She will break down crying at some point but whether it is crying ON someone or just crying alone in the sunflowers... also depends :') THE PROBLEM WITH BATTLER as opposed to Erika is that unlike Erika, there are a few people in Aather who know who Battler is and even what he looks like, or just that someone like him exists, like Raven :B (I GUESS IN THAT SENSE IT WAS ON THE BILLBOARD FOR EVERYONE TO SEE...) So she probably will get confronted about it instead of her getting to choose who she tells about it, like with Erika :( SPOILERS IF YOU CONFRONT HER ABOUT IT SHE'LL CRY AND NOT TELL YOU VERY MUCH, STRAIGHT UP. She will struggle very hard to cope but it will be hard if people are probing her with hard-hitting questions :'DD ("HARD" BEING "WHO IS THAT GUY" no well I mean... basically that.)
What impression does Erika have of Battler from her memories so far? And how will that affect her reaction when Battler shows up/when Beato inevitably reacts to Battler showing up.
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So I don't really know how she'll react. If Battler showed up RIGHT NOW before she remembered anything else or anything about Beatrice she'd probably assume Beatrice was crazy from her lost love or something, who even knows.
Tell me things about Beatrice's feelings in those last couple threads with Raven.
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idk what other thread you mean other than the Mother game one. There she did feel bad about Raven feeling bad, but in a less personal way because well she doesn't care about Yuri or anything /SHRUG! But in a way she sympathized because she doesn't know how to un-care about people herself, so she's like 8( SORRY THAT THAT GUY IS A TOTAL DICK NOW, YOU WILL PROBABLY... KEEP CARING ABOUT HIM FOREVER.......... But she's actually fairly confident in where she stands with Raven enough that she won't get insecure over worrying over Yuri or anything. (SHE WAVERED WITH MISATO, BUT THAT'S. DIFFERENT!!)
In general Raven always surprises her with how much he thinks about her and genuinely likes her and values her advice etc. etc. u////u though that's a bit of a superficial reaction.
Did talking to Beatrice actually help Raven sort himself out in any way... identity-wise!
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He's still... not really satisfied with the decision he remembers making exactly (to embrace being Raven), but that decision is also not strictly relevant since who Raven is is not strictly relevant to Aather! But the main effect that talking to Beatrice had is that he is more comfortable with embracing facades in general. During his time in Aather he has definitely constructed a certain sense of who he should/needs to be, which has never been very connected in his head to who he thinks he actually is! Though he's always wanted to try to actually be it, he definitely feels like he's just faking it all the time. The main result of talking to Beatrice is that he feels like possibly that it can be okay that it's not who he actually is, that "just keep acting like it" is a valid choice. So for instance like I said to Mitchell below, he is now slightly more comfortable being Tiger's Eye's leader, even though he still doesn't think that's who he "really" is.
In addition to that, just being with Beatrice reminds him that he has made some decisions about what he wants that are definitely actually about him. Beatrice being the main one of those! And he's still happy with that. So maybe he's actually doing better about that than he is in his memories. :B
He still doesn't really... know where he's going with any of that. But yes he's slightly more comfortable in general and definitely with Beatrice in specific than he was before.
DID ANY OF THAT EVEN MAKE ANY SENSE.
Talk more about Beatrice and Peridot!
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WELLLllll. I can't even tell if "Peridot" is meant to refer to the individual members on her team right now, or Peridot-the-concept, because those are vvvery different things. She actually thinks of Peridot conceptually as a nurturing place, where WE'LL ALL BE ACCEPTED, NO MATTER WHO ELSE OR WHAT ELSE HURTS US! Sort of the translation of the Golden Land in canon, ofc. That's why she kind of flips her shit a little every time Peridot has infighting or estrangement issues, or when there's the question of whether or not someone "belongs" there. Peridot is Peridot is Peridot and that's the bottom line and if you violate that it's opening up the path to a slippery slope of hurt and distancing the team from each other (obviously this is just her opinion/fear). Part of that, honestly, is that she like--"well if THEY might not be Peridot then I'm put under suspicion" since she doesn't really believe she deserves nice things. AS SOON AS SOMEONE IS EXCLUDED FROM PERIDOT, that place is no longer guaranteed for her, and she would not be able to function without that concept to fall back on.
As for the individual members... most of the old guard of Peridot is gone and most of the members now are fluffier and more dependent, so she doesn't see them so much as equals as her children, EVEN IF SOME OF THEM GET HUFFY/DEPRESSED AT THAT. Lelouch is her co-parent and the co-leader of the team, Cassie is her younger sister on sort of a midway step in the hierarchy, and Ventus/Fay/Emilatosk/Rose are all her BELOVED CHILDREN! Though of those, she has a special attachment to Ratatosk just because he has a blunt and brutal approach that she can deal with and which allows her to feel more comfortable opening up herself, which she will not do with ANY OTHER OF THE KIDS. So maybe he's slightly more on the level of Cassie :|a
How conceptually does Raven see the teams, including Tiger's Eye? Are his beliefs on who goes where closer to "it's destiny" or "it's completely arbitrary" :|a I GUESS YOU COULD ANSWER THIS FOR YOUR OTHER CHARACTERS TOO NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT!
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Raven loves his team and thinks they are great and he would have been lost without them, but he doesn't... really think that's essential, or that teammates are naturally more important than anything else, or that they should necessarily be striving to be super close and important to each other! Which does tend to make him insecure about his necessity to the team at times, although his sense of his role there is obviously shifting a lot lately. As far as his Tiger's Eye leadering goes he's much more focused on making them functional and able to work together and live together happily rather than being the best loving team or even necessarily agreeing on things. Though again that's partially a guild thing, since even guilds who have chosen to work together kind of fight over stuff all the time and need constant mediation because that's how guilds work.
This outlook has definitely caused him some strife with teammates in the past though! Particularly Mitchell. So in the interests of diplomacy he hasn't actually said anything like "you know we were all just assigned here, it wasn't our choice" in front of his team in quite a while. :'D
Erika was told in her intro that the teams tend to have common characteristics among their members! And believes that tends to be more or less the case from observation, although she would probably say something more like that the teams have complementary personalities. Jasper works well enough for her, anyway, even if she wouldn't really say they're like her because she's a narcissist. If she has to be on a team, which apparently she does because that's how it works, they could be significantly more annoying. But she's pretty sure that it's a matter of someone organizing it deliberately for functional teams rather than "destiny" because w/e destiny.
...Kotetsu is really new and a knight and hasn't really thought about it at all! Well, he's managed like "I want to save people and I am a knight; knights are supposed to save people so that's good." He's cool.
Things you want to do with Beatrice. :3
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OTHER THAN THAT with all the Peridrama I would like her to become closer to her teammates... :|a I think that my inactivity has made it so she's distanced from her team. Possibly I should look for a consistent venue to play out taking her memories/person she feels comfortable taking them with, which may just as likely NOT be within her team. I WANT TO PLAY WITH PEOPLE LIKE NAOTO MORE TOO, she totally wants to keep tabs on that situation (and I just like playing with her). When Battler gets in I want her to be a huge stalker all over his team. Other than that I just like threading with people and seeing what happens really...
Oh the fight with Erika does make me think that I DO want her to utterly lose her shit over something sometime, and have to be reined in, but that might have to wait until Battler is in too :'D Or possibly being mafia for Peridot?? IDK but she's at a stage in her development where she is ready to flip out on people at the slightest justification. I feel bad OOC because I am self-conscious about dragging people in to bail me out of affairs, but I would like to do it at least once or twice.
List (at least) one thing you want to do with each of your characters!!
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I have a lot of things I want to do!
For Ravennnn I am obviously really enjoying responsible team stuff with him right now! I also really want to try to thread him with knights more because really he... knows very few of them and it's only contributing to his thing where he simultaneously resents them and puts them up on a pedestal. :/a MOST AT THE TOP OF MY WISH LIST THOUGH is vague, but I would really like Raven to have to deal with something bad that is actually centered around him and not just related to his own insecurities. Getting hurt, being the target of something, making a genuinely bad decision and pissing people off and having to deal with it, something like that! The problems with that are a) Raven actually needs a fairly substantial amount of pressure before something like that would happen, b) he tends to downplay things a lot and act like everything is fine, c) I get self-conscious about grabbing the center of attention especially considering that b generally means it's harder for people to pay attention to Raven's problems than other stuff that's going on unless it's super dramatic. BUT I WANT THINGS TO HAPPEN TO HIM!! (...The last time I felt like this I got a bone ripped out of his arm.)
Erikaaaaa I want to do horrible things! I want to play her in a trauma game. :3 I want her to generally make enemies of some people! Though she's making some progress on that. I want her to come into conflict with her team at some point because I am excited to see how that goes. I want someone to call her on being a terrible person and to have her justify herself (or... not justify herself, as the case may be.) I am basically excited for all the things with her though.
KOTETSU I want to do all the knight things with! I want to play with all the teams! I want to do a quest post where he gives out pre-packaged food like frozen pizza and meat sticks and stuff because that is what he eats. I have a list of more mundane stuff but that is mostly "thread with people again/thread with people I haven't yet"... Oh, eventually I would like to subpatron him. :3 idk to who yet, but threading with personae is definitely on the list.
OH ALSO Raven still has their Firebird vacation token for... at some point. THOUGHTS ON THAT? I admit my main thought is "...sob 24 hours out of time, whenever we decide to do this we will have to work out what happens or... thread really quickly before we can do anything else..."
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UHHHHHHH YES, VACATION... Beatrice would certainly like a vacation sometime and would accept if he asked, but :'Da I admit my first instinct is like "WELL I'LL BE ON HIATUS IN JUNE SOMETIME WE COULD JUST THREAD IT THEN" but not only does that not help you but it defeats the purpose of it being out of time...
We could always... START it preemptively and then work in details as they come up in Aather canon :'Da and then decide where it goes... but. um. That involves handwavy gymnastics in the other direction. IDK WHAT DO YOU THINK.
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Tell me some memories/skills that will still have a big effect on Beatrice when she gets them back.
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SKILLS getting her ~magical body~ back will relieve stress for her but she already acts like she has it anyway so there won't be much of a difference practically. The big thing will be getting back offensive magic, which is most of the skills she has left so 8'D She can like... use a gun, but she doesn't HAVE a gun, etc., and it's all very inconvenient and she can't wait until she can set people on fire with her mind!!!! By the time she gets up to mythical class magic there's a considerable probability that someday, she will use it and then immediately pass the fuck out due to powercap. A+
As for memories: THE ACTUAL PONY PROMISE and waiting for 6 years, which is split into 3 chapters/memories I think and she hasn't gotten... any of them yet. She knows something like this went on but she actually doesn't remember any of the details. She will cry.
Also the end of EP4 is also split up into 2 or 3 memories she hasn't gotten yet and it's kinda like SIG NEG SIG NEG SIG NEG so that will be fun. Like above, she remembers losing her will to live by EP5 but she doesn't remember why precisely 8'D She will probably bypass crying and just emotionally shut down a little.
...mmmmmmost of the other big stuff is still locked, or it was on her registry and then I decided to keep it off for now, since I'd like to hold off on like the end of EP6/the end of EP5 for that matter/LEARNING HER ENTIRE BACKSTORY FROM KINZO AND THE OLD SERVANTS OKOK/the entirety of EP8 which is not even on her registry... Really I need to severely rework her registry so that I can start opening up more stuff like that, I've just been supremely lazy about... all of these memory things that are the point of a memory game, oops
WHAT ARE SOME INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT TIGER&BUNNY THAT WOULD MAKE ME WANT TO WATCH IT since in my sickishness I am getting around to watching stuff :|a
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IT. IT IS REALLY GOOD? I don't really know how to say things about Tiger & Bunny in ways that don't sound dumb though. It's corporate-sponsored superheroes and it's obviously really aware of a lot of tropes. But not... in an obnoxious way? Like it's both a lot less cynical and a lot less fanservicey than I was expecting going in. And I really love the characters a lot! They are super real and believable and I love them. ;; Even if they are all kind of dumb because really, you don't make being a superhero your career choice unless you are kind of dumb.
BUT LIKE. I love Kotetsu a lot obviously! Barnaby is also. . . amazing... he's a really terrible failure at being a functional human being for the first half, he just flips his hair at people prettily because he's the super popular new hero. And is kind of a jerk because he doesn't need friends he only needs VENGEANCE!! HIS PARENTS ARE DEAD!! And I also really love Karina/Blue Rose, despite her super fanservice superhero outfit, because she's obvious a real person who is really dedicated and kind of a failure at feelings. SHE'S REALLY CUTE. Really all of the heroes are great and I would watch them hanging out in the hero gym in their sweatpants forever because it would be adorable.
And in the end the show is all about friendship and teamwork and optimism!! And it's just... very pretty and very well done in general.
...I think part of the reason that having both Erika and Kotetsu as new characters at once is working is that I like T&B/Kotetsu for completely different reasons than I like Umineko/Erika. :'D
OH RIGHT I FORGOT A QUESTION uh. Tell me a canon I should get into.